Hi Steve, You appear to be suffering from some ALL CAPS frustrations. I would go with bold ideas are best.

I will only ask this: Can you argue how any of my statistics are inaccurate, specifically? With all your degrees, can you analyze? Not once have you addressed an argument of mine. You’ve just gone ALL CAPS apocalyptic instead. You say I’m “screwing the pooch” with no examples. What the hell does this mean (typos yours):

I really am trying to understand your blanket resistance to explucitly stating the missing data, but it is so obvious and simpke, I cannot comprehend your resistance to this standard practice.”

What missing data? It’s like you’re talking to yourself. I’m trying to talk to you. I don’t know if you’re an unemployed academic who’s gone off the deep end, or a professor with time on his hands.

I use logic and available data in presenting my conclusions and observations. I know “arrests” don’t prove all crime; but what proof do you and others that the percentages will fluctuate wildly different for one demographic but not another? What’s to be lost by simply pointing out that while blacks are 3x their rate of the population in prison, and 2.25x their rate of arrests, 4x their own rate as murderers (and murder victims), and 2.0x their rate of being shot by police (lower than contact points by law enforcement — surprise!)? Also, I’m pointing out that it’s poverty (lack of education, stable communities, etc.) that creates the situation, and would do so for any group that’s been enslaved a few generations ago. How is that controversial to present this info?

You once said that I wrote, “You say 4x “more likely” than whites to be violent criminals” and I certainly did not — it’s only the murder column. I question your interpretive abilities at this point.

But you write back, the following below, I have to question what the heck you’re talking about. And I say that as someone who’s 2 decades out of college, so you judged incorrectly on that I’m some “young guy,” too.

The stats you are using ARE NOT “CRIME STATS.” They are ARREST STATS. They cannot speak to the nature of any reality except the reality of the justice system, specifically police work. They say nothing about crime itself!”

Well, they actually are crime stats because no one has proven that a vast majority of arrests are for actual crimes. Though, it’s actually difficult to get prosecuted.

Actually, they ARE crime stats.

The Uniform Crime Reports (UCR) are official data on crime in the United States, published by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). UCR is “a nationwide, cooperative statistical effort of nearly 18,000 city, university and college, county, state, tribal, and federal law enforcement agencies voluntarily reporting data on crimes brought to their attention.”[2]

Crime statistics are compiled from UCR data and published annually by the FBI in the Crime in the United States series.

Here is someone who knows nothing on how to argue FBI crime stats. But would you agree with him? Perhaps.

If fear of racists using stats is the problem, than we’ve truly lost the war for ideas.



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David Shuey

David Shuey

Writer. Researcher. Designer. Human seeking better outcomes. Also searching for relevant facts and logical arguments above expedient or politial narratives.