David Shuey
3 min readNov 12, 2016


I’m going to leave a quick copy and paste of a comment at the bottom as a reply to the last one on this thread that says you’re wrong. I don’t believe you are. Their counter argument merely mentions a Washington Post article that is said to debunk your argument. I’ve seen it, and read it three times as it comes up in many Google searches. It doesn’t. It’s actually evidence of how WaPo (which I subscribe to, so I can use the pretentious shorthand) is complicit as most mainstream media on “trying to be on the right side of history with Black Lives Matter” by ignoring the facts at hand: black people are 25% of those killed by police but are 27% of arrests and nearly 40% of violent arrests. By ignoring how the lethal combo of sour police-community relations, poverty and guns in Chicago, Baltimore and Milwaukee alone will kill more black people this year than last — a net increase greater than the 250 or so shot and killed by police nationwide annually — I argue they’re on the wrong side of history.

WaPo showing that Guiliani messed up by himself distorting crime stats is a folly. Don’t rely on blowhard conservative politicians, do a stronger analysis, or mention how 36 unarmed black men shot and killed by police is a small fraction of nearly 1000. (Update 2017: That number is 16 in 2016, as ”unarmed” dropped to 5% of total. There were likely 8,000+ black homicides as they jumped nearly 15%, a second consecutive double digit increase.) Those justified interaction points of police action running towards criminal behavior that occasionally rises to violence say it simply: It’s not racism. Skewing the data — Dr. Roland Fryer doesn’t when debunking the cops-shoot-too-many-blacks myth — to mention stop-and-frisk and other “racist” encounters by police isn’t the reason, which would make the classic institutional racism argument. We can counter that by discussing the maligned Chicago PD institution, regularly charged with racial profiling. In Chicago this year 7 people have been killed by police, as of mid-November. (74% shot are black, but they also commit around 74% of crime, according to 911 calls.) That’s 1 per 300,000 in a city where the media and daily assumptions are “they’re at war with black people.” (Note the violence too — nearly 700 murders in Chicago as of Nov 12, 2016, a 50% increase I and many others partially attribute to an ACLU/Ferguson/Viral Video Effect.) In the USA across large swaths of white folks, the data is the same, 1 in 300,000.

In 2015 it was the same; even though Chicago has 4x the rate of gun-violence murder per capita. This year, Chicago has 6x.

No media reports this.

NYC cops also don’t have disproportionate killings of minorities relative to crime or population or compared to the rest of the USA — but you sure hear about them in the media, from Eric Garner to Asian American police shooting accidentally (and being held responsible in court) in housing project stairwells. Annually, there’s hundreds in the heartland who are white, Asian, Native American or Hispanic and we don’t see their names scrawl on CNN.

So I’m copying and pasting someone’s comment now that I saw at the top of the WaPo link that I will fact-check each later. I possibly don’t agree ideologically — many making these arguments are white nationalists. Some are not. To me, black, white, and brown lives are equal to me. The point is the same: If black lives didn’t matter, how come they’re the only lives we seem to hear about?

Comment from someone that’s not me:

Just because WaPo doesn’t thing their lives mattered, doesn’t mean they don’t.

Jessica Chambers #sayhername Mentioned in 4 articles in WaPo, 2 articles in NYT.

Meing-Chen Hsiao #sayhername Mentioned in 2 articles in WaPo, 1 articles in NYT.

Taylor Friloux #sayhername Mentioned in 0 articles in WaPo, 0 articles in NYT.

Karen Sivek #sayhername Mentioned in 0 articles in WaPo, 0 articles in NYT.

Alton Sterling Mentioned in 353 articles and 175 blog posts in WaPo, 177 articles in NYT



David Shuey

Writer. Researcher. Designer. Human seeking better outcomes for all. Empiricism, relevant facts, and logical arguments > simple narratives.