David Shuey
5 min readMar 19, 2018

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Since 2014, police in Chicago have killed around 1 citizen per 300,000 citizens. That’s the same rate as cops nationwide. (Stats; HeyJackAss!)

TL;DR: Jim Hoyt-McDaniels misconstrued my use of these graphics in a comment above. For example, I clearly pointed out when first using it that the 2nd one is racist. Next two comments address this. My original reply:

Jim Hoyt-McDaniels, Thanks for replying. Sorry I didn’t notice that you did for 1 month. I do try to engage so we all can learn and grow from facts and context.

I have a couple questions. Here’s the first: What graphics did I present that would lead to someone accusing me of “racist basis”? (I think you mean bias.) Frankly you’re accusing me of using images I did not even USE in this post.

One image I used presents accurate Washington Post data, showing how unarmed people shot by police represent under 10% of shootings. The other one is Center for Disease Control data used on both liberal and conservative websites to portray how police shootings have dropped significantly for blacks (more than 70% drop over 40–50 years), which I first used here on my analysis of police shootings. (See excerpt below.)

Additionally, your two graphics you sent me are complete opposites: One is false, and one is accurate. The latter I’m not unfamiliar, as it was shared widely by candidate Donald Trump — which he later took down — and IS racist and filled with falsehoods. In fact, I would call it one of the more racist things he’s ever Tweeted — and that’s saying a lot.

The former image you shared by HeyJackAss has consistently shown accurate statistics that in no way align with the other viral meme you choose to juxtapose it with, Jim Hoyt-McDaniels. Whites are killed by blacks 81% of the time? That’s obviously a falsehood on its face as fact-checkers and social scientists have proven. (It’s closer to 15%, and whites killing blacks is closer to 7%, according to FBI data. Twice as many blacks kill whites than vice versa. Is that racist to say? Again, it depends on the context.)

Second question: What’s wrong with presenting accurate data and in context? Below you can see me using HeyJackAss stats (basically, insider data from police reports in Chicago), which I know are accurate as The Chicago Tribune’s reporting matches it. And no one has credibly disputed it.

My goals are to assure people that police aren’t killing citizens — especially black ones — in a prejudiced way. The data bares that out no matter what propaganda-spewing Vice Magazine (falsely saying 20% of people killed by police are unarmed) and Vox (omitting data, and running old data, that counters their narrative) is pushing out their media door.

I have used HeyJackAss stats many times before as they show clearly that police in Chicago are NOT killing blacks at a rate higher than the national average, despite dealing with a homicide rate that’s 4–6 times higher, and Chicago’s violent crime is increasing 5 times faster than the national average..

In 2015 and 2016, 25 citizens were shot by police in both years, according to the Chicago crime data-crunching website HeyJackass! (The Chicago Tribune lists slightly less with 22 people shot, 8 fatally, in 2015; and if you do some quick math you’ll see the rate of lethal force in Chicago the past two years is the same as nationally, roughly 1 in 300,000.) Here are the concrete numbers for two separate years spanning four decades which are among the worst for violence in Chicago:

1974: 970 Chicago citizens murders (including 6 police shot and killed)

1974: 137 citizens shot by police (page 20 of PDF)

2016: 800+ Chicago citizens murdered

2016: 25 citizens shot by police

And used here:

In New York City.
2015 stats, 9 killed by Chicago police (CPD): heyjackass.com

CDC — 70% drop in rate of killings of African Americans by police.
http://www.cjcj.org/mobile/news/8113

National police shootings and deaths, about 1 in 300,000 residents (blacks around 25%, whites around 50%). https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database (318 million U.S. population / 991 deaths by police according to The Washington Post = 320,888).

Chicago shootings (police, civilian). Last 2 years, averaging 10 shooting deaths by police in a city of 2.72 million = 1 in 272,000.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-police-shootings-2015-met-20160101-story.html
http://heyjackass.com/category/2016-stats/
http://heyjackass.com/2017-police-involved-shootings/

San Francisco shooting deaths, also about 1 in 300,000 residents, with new police chief due to shooting controversies. http://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/SF-s-police-involved-shootings-practices-and-7921829.php (Averaging 2.5 deaths per year in a city more than three times smaller than Chicago = 1 in 334,800)

Reasons Chicago police pulled back in 2016: “The number of stops between January and late November dropped from about 560,000 in 2015 to 100,000 this year, a result of chastened police as well as a new agreement between the city and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) that changed the requirements and definition of a stop.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/why-2016-has-been-chicago-s-bloodiest-year-in-almost-two-decades-a7480226.html

Onerous new ACLU form that lead to dramatic drops in stops (and can take 45 minutes per stop).
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170102/downtown/cpd-black-lives-matter-garry-mccarthy-police-morale-rahm-emanuel
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-investigatory-stop-form-replaced-20160223-story.html

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David Shuey

Writer. Researcher. Designer. Human seeking better outcomes for all. Empiricism, relevant facts, and logical arguments > simple narratives.