David Shuey
2 min readJun 24, 2018

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What’s interesting to me is that video is an example of his unyielding homophobia. Shapiro merely doesn’t go along with someone’s transitioning language — which I disagree with him on, but don’t think is anywhere near level 10 homophobia — and he gets physically threatened.

Naturally, Googling the story you hear the same insane logic where Shapiro gets blamed as the bully, deserving of physical threat. So says this LA Times columnist who got a reply from Ben Shapiro, who had no regrets:

So, no, Tur does not regret getting aggressive with Shapiro. “I should have put Ben over my knees and spanked him,” she said. “He was acting out and being rude to others in public.”

I wondered if Shapiro regretted his over-the-top remarks. On Friday, he told me by email that he stands by everything he said on the program, and he is appalled that anyone would support Tur.

“Factual truth is not offensive; it is truth,” he wrote. “Factual truth is not bullying. And humor[ing] delusion is not kindness, it is cruelty to the mentally ill.

“On the other hand, battery and criminal threats are not just offensive but illegal — and Mr. Tur’s activity meets the legal definition of both in California. Such activities are most certainly bullying, and outside any standard of decency. Your willingness, and the media’s more general willingness, to ignore that basic standard of decency and civilization out of sympathy for those who violate such standards is repulsive. Is it truly your position that it is perfectly acceptable to physically threaten someone because you don’t agree with their argument?”

Of course not. I didn’t think what Tur did amounted to bullying at all, since she was responding to an outrageous and insulting provocation.

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David Shuey

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